by Naomi Rabon
NASM Certified Personal Trainer & Fitness Nutrition Specialist, NW Fitness Team Trainer
Changing one’s body composition – summed up in a nutshell – is gaining muscle and losing body fat. Or is it gaining muscle or losing fat?
Which raises one of the most common questions most people have – can you do both at the same time? The short answer, in my opinion (and many may argue with me), is no. You cannot gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.
THE “SCIENCE”
What can happen, from a physical aspect, is that if you gain some muscle mass within a certain time period, your metabolism will likely speed up. Your engine will start revving, you’ll burn more calories at a faster rate, and you may actually end up shedding some fat because you gained a little muscle. So physically, yes, you can appear to gain and lose – maybe not at exactly the same precise moment in time, but I may be over-thinking it.
GOAL OVERVIEW #1: Creating a Caloric Surplus (AKA: Gaining Weight)
When your focus is to build muscle, your goal is to gain weight. These are the variables you can control as much as possible to create the best environment for gaining muscle:
• Caloric surplus (eat more than you burn)
• Macronutrient split specific to muscle Gain (40/40/20 protein/carbs/fat is the most common but this varies)
• Minimal cardio
• Heavier weight-lifting sessions (8-12 reps for hypertrophy is most common), longer rest periods
• Larger separation of body part splits to focus more on each muscle group
GOAL OVERVIEW #2: Creating a Caloric Deficit (AKA: Losing Weight)
When your focus is to burn fat, your goal is to lose weight. These are the variables you can control as much as possible to create the best environment for burning fat:
• Caloric deficit
• Macronutrient split specific to fat loss
• More frequent cardio for longer durations (preferably a mix of HIIT with steady state for at least 30 minutes a day, 5x a week)
• Faster-paced weight-lifting sessions, higher rep ranges, shorter rest periods, keeping HR high throughout
• Can combine more muscle groups and even incorporate total body workouts
HOW TO CHOOSE YOUR PLAN
The problem arises when someone thinks they can do everything all at once because they want to build muscle and shed fat and see a chiseled, ripped physique when they look in the mirror. So their fitness program consists of heavy lifting sessions (to build muscle) and a ton of cardio while at a caloric deficit (to shed fat). And they expect to gain muscle mass and lose body fat and completely change their body composition all in a matter of a few months (and some might even expect these changes in a few weeks … you know who you are ;-P).
This fitness program is not designed for one particular focus, the variables are all over the board and maxed out, you’re exercising 6-7 days a week. What will likely happen is you won’t see the results you hope for, you will be completely tapped out and eventually frustrated – wondering why you are working so hard but aren’t getting anywhere.
It is in this sense – the focus of your overall fitness program – that you cannot both gain muscle and lose fat at the same time and get the results you want.
How you go about doing this – which you focus on first and for how long and when you should start focusing on the other and for how long, and how you know when to switch from one to the other, etc. – varies from person to person and depends on a lot of factors, including what your overall goals are and how your body responds to your fitness program.
To maximize your time, your expenses, your energy, your efforts and all other resources you are putting into changing your body composition, you need to focus on one or the other – either gaining muscle or losing fat – for a certain period of time in order to truly get great quality, long-term, measureable results.
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ABOUT NAOMI RABON
One of the trainers on Nicole’s elite NW Fitness Training Team, Naomi is a certified Personal Trainer and Fitness Specialist through the National Academy of Sports Medicine. She is a NPC Figure competitor who has been involved in the health and fitness industry for over 12 years.
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Hi Naomi, I am really loving the “Tip Me Tuesday” It’s so informative! I agree with you 100%, it’s difficult to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time; I’ve tried it before, didn’t work at all, like you said it has to be one or the other.
Log in to replyThe thought of gaining weight is uncomfortable, but you’ve helped me to make peace with the idea of gaining weight in order to achieve my ultimate goal, which is to gain lean muscle. Thanks for all the great advice you give, thanks for “Tip Me Tuesday” Can’t wait for next Tuesday!! 🙂
I’m so happy you found it helpful Marcia! Glad you are enjoying the tips ;-)! And glad you have made peace with weight gain 😀
Log in to replyGreat information… and reassurance:) I look forward to Tuesdays!!!
Log in to replyAwesome, thank you! Glad you found this helpful 🙂
Log in to replyHi all,
This questions is off topic but I don’t know where else to post it!
Does any one use collagen supplements? Coq10? Hyluronic acid?
I see that these supplements are vary popular out of Europe and Brazil but not so much in the USA.
Any thoughts or advice is welcomed.
I’m considering using them since I’m now 30 and feel that training has affected my face. My face looks stressed out no matter how much I sleep etc. I changed up my food too so I’m eating more . Added sodium which was so helpful. Also added healthy fats! Thanks to Nicole’s video!
Log in to replyHi Lionela,
I don’t have an answer for you with regard to collagen supplements, but have you tried going to a dermatologist or going to a spa where they specialize in various skin care options?
Great to hear you’ve added healthy fats into your diet! 😉
~ Naomi
Log in to replyHi Naomi! I really like your Tip Me Tuesday forum. Today’s topic couldn’t come at a better time. I have been struggling with cardio vs weights. My routine now is kickboxing 2-3 days per week and strength training 2-3 days per week. I use Nicole’s strength workouts alternating between major muscle groups but I do abs everyday well…..5-6 days per week. With this schedule I do not feel like I’m accomplishing anything. I feel like I either need to do all strength 5 days per week or all kickboxing 5 days per week and keep which ever schedule I choose for say 6 weeks before switching. Would you recommend that? I am 5’4 and weigh 133lbs. I feel I still have some body fat to lose. I should probably do that before I start building well defined muscle. So with that being said, should I do the kickboxing thing and then move to strength training? Your insight would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks – Amy
Log in to replyHi Amy!
Sorry for the delay in response! I would suggest you focus on building muscle first. The reason is because your goal is to lose body fat. When you gain muscle, you gain weight, so why would one try to lose first, then try to build muscle (gain weight) AFTER you’ve lost weight? Build first, then shed fat 😉
I would highly recommend picking one of these body part split schedules: https://nicolewilkins.com/structure-your-workout-split-for-your-goals/
… and instead of doing heavy lifting/building for 6 weeks, do it for 3-6 months in order to build some great quality muscle. I have personally taken an entire YEAR just to build muscle. It was fun lol! 😀 It was even more fun to see what I had built underneath after I started to lean out to see all the muscle size and definition. Good quality muscle building takes a LONG time, but it is so worth it. And it is also a good lesson in patience 😉
You don’t have to cut out cardio all together, but just limit cardio to about 20 minutes 3-4x’s per week. For muscle building, kickboxing might be too intense. Personally, I stick to walking or the elliptical when trying to build muscle. If you enjoy kickboxing and you still want to do it because it feels good or for stress relief, etc., you can still probably get away with doing it 1x per week unless it is an hour or longer. That might affect your muscle building, but it really depends on how your body responds to everything and how many calories you are consuming.
I hope this is helpful!
Log in to replyThis helped me! I feel like the above writer. I have been lifting, bringing up the cardio, doing HIITs, no change, except that I feel exhausted and sore. Thank you, focusing on lifting and gaining now.
Log in to replyGlad to hear this helped you, Christine! I hope you start seeing the changes you want to see when you start to focus on one or the other! 😀
Log in to replyGreat article.
Wondering when you say surplus for muscle building what are you thinking if you are a female 5’6 stage 123 lbs should the max to gain be like 10 percent 12 lbs because I know a lot of folks go overboard and end up gaining way more. I got up to 140 in my building phase.
would like to stay at like 130 if I could will I still be able to achieve mass – as this is my goal and feedback 😉
Seems like everytime I compete it (the diet) is less painful and more manageable as I gain muscle if that makes sense. I only had to go as low as 170 carbs this time – bottom line is I was super lean just needed more time under the weights –
Jessica
Log in to replyHi Jessica,
What I would recomend first is to try to get the number 130 out of your head. What if you are missing out on some GREAT muscle building because you want to stay in your ‘comfort zone’ of 130lbs? I am 5’5 and am about 142-145lbs when building (my goal for my next building phase is to be comfortable between 145-150lbs to build, lol). Though this definitely varies from person-to-person, 130lbs may be unrealistic at 5″6 for building muscle, in my opinion.
The second recommendation I would make is for you to make slow, gradual increases in calories and macros by reverse dieting. There is no possible way for me to tell you what your magic numbers are without seeing your pictures and coaching you with your nutrition as your body changes from week-to-week. So to monitor your own changes, follow the guidelines Nicole has laid out step-by-step in the reverse dieting post 😉 https://nicolewilkins.com/reverse-dieting-101-keys-to-staying-lean/
It sounds like you’re on the right track! 😀
Log in to replyAny tips and advice on maintaining your desired look once you have achieved it?
Log in to replyHi Emma,
Absolutely, I would recommend you just stay-the-course with your workouts and nutrition with whatever you have been doing to achieve your “goal body.”
You will need to determine what your maintenance calories are, which is a caloric range (for example between 1,650-1,700) where you neither gain nor lose a significant amount of weight, although weight can fluctuate betwen 1-5lbs from day-to-day for various reasons. And maintain that caloric intake as your daily goal.
Regarding your macros, keep them at the same split that you had them to achieve your goal body. And if you start to gain weight, you can slightly decrease your calories by 50-100 calories, lower your carbs a little and increase your healthy fats while keeping your proteins the same. You’ll need to play with or adjust your calories and macros slightly if you start to gain or lose weight. You can also keep your food intake the same and either increase or decrease your cardio. There are several different ways of going about this 🙂
I hope this helps! 😀
Log in to replyHi Naomi,
I was just wondering if you are able to see my post above because I haven’t gotten a reply and I see you replying to others. Under my post it says: your comment is awaiting moderation so I’m not quite sure what that means and if that could be the culprit.
Thanks a bunch!
Log in to replyAmy
Great article champ!! 🙂
Log in to replyThanks, fellow champ!! 😉 xo
Log in to replyThis was a great article, thank you Naomi :).
Log in to replyWhat if you just want to stay where you are currently at, just keep doing what you are doing??
I currently lift 5 days a week, cardio 5 days a week. I could be leaner but I know its because I’m not 100% on my macros right now (I like enjoying my summer weekends…lol) so I’m not ready to give that up just yet and I am enjoying some muscle gain. I’m 5″2, 110-112 lbs. I felt my leanest at 108 this year.
Thanks!
Thank you Sharon, I am glad you enjoyed the article 🙂
You are exactly right, I would recommend you just stay-the-course with your workouts and nutrition with whatever you have been doing to achieve your “goal body” if you want to mantain.
You will need to determine what your maintenance calories are, which is a caloric range (for example between 1,650-1,700) where you neither gain nor lose a significant amount of weight, although weight can fluctuate betwen 1-5lbs from day-to-day for various reasons. And maintain that caloric intake as your daily goal.
Regarding your macros, keep them at the same split that you had them to achieve your goal body. And if you start to gain weight, you can slightly decrease your calories by 50-100 calories, lower your carbs a little and increase your healthy fats while keeping your proteins the same. You’ll need to play with or adjust your calories and macros slightly if you start to gain or lose weight. You can also keep your food intake the same and either increase or decrease your cardio. There are several different ways of going about this 🙂
Good luck!
Log in to replyWhat an AWESOME article!! Been looking for exactly this! You spelled it out perfectly! THANK YOU THANK YOU!!
Log in to replyAwesome Bridgitte, I am glad you enjoyed it! 😀
Log in to replyWhat is the best Macronutrient split specific to fat loss for bodyfat/weight loss?
Log in to replyHi Theresa,
Although diet is 80-85% of your success, there are several other HUGE other factors that affect ones ability to burn fat other than just your macro split:
1. how much muscle you have, which can determine how fast or slow your metabolism is (which determines the rate at which you burn calories, thus how well your body is able to burn fat)
2. how much and what type of cardio you are doing, how often and for how long a period of time each cardio session
3. how much and what type of strength-training/weight-lifting you are doing, how often and for how long a period of time each workout
4. how your body responds to all of the above factors
All of the above mentioned can determine how many calories you should be eating, and what your macro split should look like for optimal fat loss. Here is an example of how this works:
Let’s take “Sue Smith” who is 40 years old with two kids, 5’5 and 138lbs:
Sue is not doing much traditional cardio at all but wants to lose fat. She is doing 3-4 full-body bootcamp style circuit workouts per week at about 45 min – 1 hr session. Sue just got back into working out after about 10 years focusing on family and raising kids. She doesn’t have a lot of muscle, and has about 35lbs she’d like to lose. On this workout program, with her history and current metabolic, strength and exercise endurance state, Sue would most likely have a hard time losing body fat (slightly depending on her genetics) even at a caloric deficit with say calories at 1,450 and a macro split of 30c/45p/25f.
If you took a person with a similar profile (“Jill Jones”): 40 yrs old with two kids, 5’5 and 138lbs, but Jill has been doing traditional weightlifting with 3-4 body part splits per week for the last 15-20 years and she wanted to go through about 12 weeks of cutting. Her metabolism might be so fast that her calories could be as high as 1700-1800, with the same macro split of 30c/45/p/25f then add in 4-5 cardio sessions and she would likely drop fat too fast, so her split might need to stay a little higher in carbs at 40c/40p/20f or she might not add in too much cardio, or she might increase her calories to prevent losing too much fat too quickly that she ends up losing a lot of muscle too.
There are so many factors with each individual person that it is not really possible to throw out a blanket “magic fat loss” macro split. You can start out at 30c/45p/25f and see how your body responds after a few weeks. In my personal experience, dropping carbs and increasing cardio helps me with fat loss, but this depends on how much muscle you have also. Everyone’s body will responds differently based on a number of other variables in their lives.
I hope this is helpful!
Log in to replyGreat article Thank you! You mentioned a suggested macro breakdown for muscle gain but didn’t include any suggestions for macro breakdowns for fat loss. Can you give any suggestions? Thanks. 🙂
Log in to replyThank you Christine! You can start out trying 30c/45p/20f and do this for at least two weeks, then re-adjust based on how your body responds.
There is no magic number for fat loss, it really depends on a host of other factors. I just replied in great detail about this in the above question, so please check out my response above for a more in-depth explanation 😉
I hope all this is helpful to you on your fitness journey! Good luck 😀
Log in to replyHi Naomi, im having a hard time which carbs are best to eat post work out ? Atm i will have 1/2 scoop of protien , 1/2 banana, tsp of almond butter blended with almond milk- i like to have a crunch to go with it n have been using GF granola- is this fine or to much carbs? – I work out at the gym 5x a week for an hour – 1 5 hr– it takes me 40 mins to walk back home before i can eat so i gave the 1/2 scoop or bar right after–thanks!
Log in to replyCherie
Hi Cherie!
The post workout shake with granola sounds ok, but it really depends on a few things, including: how much granola, the ingredients in the granola, what your total food intake (calories and macros) looks like for the whole day (not just post workout) and if you are looking to gain muscle or lose fat at the moment.
I guess I am not sure exactly what you are asking. If you are asking what the best carbs are (best source? best amount?) for recovery post workout, I really would have to know what your goals are to give you a more accurate answer. Nicole posted a great video on post-workout nutrition that might be helpful: https://nicolewilkins.com/fit-kitchen-post-workout-nutrition/
I hope this helps guide you a little bit better on what to consume post-workout! 🙂
Log in to replyNaomi,
Log in to replyI appreciate your Tip Me Tuesday topics! This one was the “head smack” I need. I am stubborn and like to think I can build muscle and lose fat at the same time (I love lifting heavy but dislike cardio). LOL Sitting at 222.2 lbs currently on this 5 ft 1 inch frame….the focus for me should clearly be fat loss. You are so right….I will never see the results I want and be able to sustain progress if I don’t choose a focus. With this mindset and Nicole’s 30 days of Olympia prep workouts where her focus is also shredding, I’m excited about what progress I can and will make over the next month.
Hugs,
Linda ( NC Phat Camp-Burlington Krew)
Linda –
Girl, you are so going to ROCK these next 30 days!!! I am so glad you read this post and got out of it what you got out of it so that you can give 100% focus and effort on one aspect of fitness at a time 😀
I saw on FB where you are going to take pics and measurements at the begining and end of August so please share the results of your hard work with us at the end of the 30 days! You can email me (na[email protected]) and/or Nicole ([email protected])!
I am so excited for you girl! GO KILL IT!!! 😀
xo ~ Naomi
Log in to replyYes, I did my weight, measurements and pics this morning! I hope to have dramatic results in these 30 days. I’ll give it all I’ve got. 🙂 I’m super excited!
Log in to replyThanks for a great article. This is something I struggle with as well. Being bombarded by the media with the “thin look” it was hard to think about some gains. I did manage to gain some muscle but being 142lbs on 5’2 I want to do a bit to shredding to see what I’ve got. I’ve done before pics and can’t wait for after pics.
Log in to replyThe macros always confuse me but I get that its an individual formula, which will take some time to figure out. But love the prep and can’t wait to train hard!
Michelle.
This is a bit late to the party, but I’m wondering for muscle gain, what rate would you recommend gaining a week to try and maximize muscle while minimizing fat? I know some fat gain is inevitable but on the other hand, lately I feel I’m going so slow to build I’m not really seeing progress. About how many calories above maintenance would you say is a good starting point? And assuming 4 days of lifting a week, is it best to increase only on training days or all days of the week?
Log in to replyDo You still do your cardio even when you’re bulking?
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